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Posted: 29 Dec 2015 at 10:23pm

The third week of December my wife and I headed to Death Valley, in southern California. When we left on Sunday it was raining and we had a 20-30 mph head wind all the way south on Highway 99 to Bakersfield where we spent the night. At times I was driving 45 MPH. My MPG when towing averages 12 MPG but with the head wind I was getting 8 MPG. I had to make an extra stop to fill up, I usually can make Bakersfield with one stop. We stayed at the Orange Grove RV Park with electricity and water for $30 a night. You can pick all the oranges you want. Before heading out the next morning we were watching the morning news and the weatherperson said that school had been canceled in Tehachapi Ca. because of snow. We had to drive thru their on Highway 58 so I checked with Caltrans to see if the pass was opened and their web site said that there were no restrictions, so we took off. Once we got to the other side heading toward the town of Mojave we had sun. From there we headed to Barstow to take Highway 15 to Baker, Ca and then north on Highway 127 (Death Valley Rd). I wanted to try this way into Death Valley even though its 75 miles longer than taking Highway 14 north from Mojave. (We took 14 back). The winds finely died down and at least we had a tail wind. We arrived just as the sun was going down. The Furnace Creek campground is very nice, with my senior discount card you get in to the park for free and full hook ups were only $21 a night (They have 18 full hook up sites). We stayed 6 nights and did a bunch of hikes. It was cold in the morning, usually 35-40F. There are 2 Furnace Creek campgrounds in Death Valley, one is private and it is called Furnace Creek Ranch. The private one is more expensive. Gas at Costco on the way down was $2.48 for premium and in the park it was $4.06 per gallon. We had planned to spend one night at Red Rocks State Park, Ca. off of Highway 14 but decided to drive one more hour to Bakersfield to spend the night. We headed back on Monday with a 10 MPH tail wind for the drive home. On Tuesday my sister sent me this head line from an L.A. news station, LANCASTER, Calif. (KABC) At least half a dozen big rigs were knocked over by high winds on Highway 14 Freeway in the Mojave Desert Tuesday morning. (They had gust to 60 MPH).

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Heading north from Baker, Ca on Highway 127 (Death Valley Rd)
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Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 10:31am

Those are some wonderful pictures!

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Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 1:40pm

I had a similar experience when I realized my prior TV (minivan) wasn't going to cut it for long trips across the US. We were driving from MD to FL and encountered many hours of a strong head wind. Could barely do 50 with it floored, and mpg dropped from 12 to 8.

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Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 7:29pm

We slowed to 45 MPH because it was the safe thing to do, even the big rigs slowed down. As we drove farther south the wind shifted more to the west and was blowing on the side of the trailer. After we got by Fresno late in the afternoon the wind was not as strong.

From NOAA for Sunday 13 Dec - Rain and possibly a thunderstorm before 10am, then rain between 10am and 4pm, then a chance of showers after 4pm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rainfall. High near 55. Windy, with a south wind 29 to 34 mph becoming west 20 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Winds could gust as high as 47 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New precipitation amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

Here is the link to the big rigs that got blown over on Tuesday 22 Dec, and a screen shot of a travel trailer that got blown over
http://abc7.com/weather/high-winds-topple-big-rigs-on-mojave-desert-freeways/1132371/

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Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 7:52pm

Great pictures!!

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Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 9:33pm

That is not a friendly slot for pulling trailers. I'm betting you had a sway bar hooked up. What about a load lifter. I have a 2014 Ridgeline and it seems like Honda owners manual suggests none be used. What do you think?

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Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 9:34pm

Oops, I tow a 2014 179 pod.

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Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 10:17pm

Gas at Costco on the way down was $2.48 for premium and in the park it was $4.06 per gallon.

43 years ago, my wife and I drove our VW bus from Mass to LA and back at this time of the year. Gas was $.25/gal in Oklahoma and $.50/gal in Death Valley. I swore I'd never pay that much again!

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Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 10:28pm

I do not have a sway bar or a load lifter. I have a StowAway Hitch Tightener that prevents hitch wobble on the trailer ball mount and I drive slower when I am getting a lot of wind on the side of the trailer. I just posted this evening under Topics - “Reviews and General Information” - “Dynamics of Towing” web sites that had some technical articles on Sway (yaw), center of gravity and the distribution of weight in a trailer. They explain why you don’t want to travel with your fresh water tank full in the rear mounted tank in the 177

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Posted: 30 Dec 2015 at 11:42pm

Great pictures! When we go to Death Valley, we always camp at the Texas Spring campground. The reason is "generators are prohibited in Texas Spring Campground."

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